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Published on April 16, 2008 By erathoniel In Religion

    Intelligent Design is proved by two scientific statements: Einstein's Theory of Relativity, and Occam's Razor. Basically, nothing can come from nothing, without an outside force. Therefore the universe must have been created. Occam's Razor would also prove this theory. "God created the Earth" is much more simple than any alternative. Also, any arguements for the contrary can be labled as free will (We have free will, but God must, to give us true free will, let us decide based on evidence). Also, mind you that we know nothing on the specifics of the Creation. If God willed it, we could have evolved from monocellular organisms, but, importantly, God made the universe, he knows what will happen, and anything that has or will happen has been mandated by him, as are all things happening at this time.


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on Apr 16, 2008
You cannot provide anything that specifically refutes anything we say. You don't even answer most of the comments, just flood past them.


Of course, you can't refute something that's not valid.

~Zoo
on Apr 16, 2008

You do realise that I cannot be stopped in my beliefs. The only way to shut me up is to shut me down. I'll keep on limping. You cannot provide anything that specifically refutes anything we say. You don't even answer most of the comments, just flood past them.

I take it you are referring to me.  The only thing I can think of that will take a beating and 'keep on limping' is a zombie.  And that is a fictional character.  As for refuting anything you say(as opposed to the 'we' you use), provide some intelligent, articulate points and you might get a response.  And with regards to commenting, I only comment on those points that interest or disturb me.  Just in case you're in doubt as to which one of these you are, you're the latter.

on Apr 16, 2008

Nice to know that I'm just another ordinary guy. (Reference to Ordinary by Thousand Foot Krutch)

I listen to heavy-metal (Demon Hunter), play tabletop games (D&D) style. I do lots of things that everyday people do, I don't need to be perfect to be saved.

I know 3 doctors (Counting theology, 5). Two of them are non-theology degrees I met at church. The other is my physical doctor.

If you wish to argue that religion is a crutch, shall I point out that the strongest people in the world are Christians, and their success frequently waves when they leave God behind and do what they feel is best, not what the Bible ordains.

on Apr 17, 2008
listen to heavy-metal (Demon Hunter)


A. It's not heavy metal, it's metalcore. Huge difference.

B. It's not metalcore, it's Christian metalcore. There's no metal in 'Christian metal'.

And what does you being ordinary or having occasional association with doctors have anything to do with the validity or lack thereof of your supposed 'argument' for Intelligent Design?

Don't get your panties in a bunch, just because we've pointed out that your 'argument' isn't such, it's mostly empty vapid talking points without substance.
on Apr 17, 2008
OCK,
This defies common sense and reason becasue the universe is made up of finite things each had a beginning. The universe points to Almighty God, the first Cause of all things visible and invisible.


But by that statement right there. (See bold) If everything points to having a beginning, then how can there be an exception? It would make the entire point of everything having a beginning, null and void. Think about it, if, as you state, common sense and reason says that everything has to have a source, then what about God? Was there a God before him? How about before that one?

I mean, doesn't science tell us that things cannot come from nothing? (Right Zoo? SC?)

If you wish to argue that religion is a crutch, shall I point out that the strongest people in the world are Christians, and their success frequently waves when they leave God behind and do what they feel is best, not what the Bible ordains.


Religion, like everything else, is what you make of it.

on Apr 17, 2008
Oh, wait a minute... I see it all the time on JU. Maybe I should start believing it.that's not very nice of you......  


He's got a point, and it's not just confined to JU either.
on Apr 17, 2008

Sorry about the link that wasn't a link with no explanation.  I realize that copying and pasting is tremendously arduous.

 

It's a link to the first of 8 parts on YouTube of an interview between the Associate Producer of Expelled and some of the editors of Scientific American magazine.  I particularly like the part in Part 2 where the Associate Producer says that a particular scientist and evolutionary biologist who is known for his Christianity was exempted from the film because it would needlessly confuse the issue.  It's at about 8 mins 10 seconds in to Part 2.

on Apr 17, 2008

    I disagree with that. As we do not know how the world was specifically created, it always helps to have more opinions.

on Apr 17, 2008
As we do not know how the world was specifically created, it always helps to have more opinions.


That's fine...but you see, the issue is that OPINIONS ARE NOT SCIENCE!

~Zoo
on Apr 17, 2008

I meant on the Creation. Not evolution or whatnot. Evolution is an opinion.

on Apr 17, 2008
Evolution is an opinion.


No, it's a theory...actually, it's more of a model these days. The only people that doubt it with such veracity are people that have absolutely no understanding of it.

~Zoo
on Apr 17, 2008
The only people that doubt it with such veracity are people that have absolutely no understanding of it.


that's hoaky....to be nice......

on Apr 17, 2008

that's hoaky....to be nice......

Then you explain what it is, KFC.  I'd like to see exactly what your definition of evolution is...not a textbook one, but what your working definition of it is that causes you to doubt 150 years of development and research...excuse me, not doubt...but vehemently deny 150 years of research and development.

~Zoo

on Apr 17, 2008

If it's wrong, I will deny it.

on Apr 17, 2008
If it's wrong, I will deny it.


OH MY GOOD CRAP you've done it. You've convinced me. You've converted me from someone with an open mind, who sees the evidence that points heavily in the direction of evolution into a Young-Earth-Creationist/Zealot, with one simple turn of phrase.

You sir, are a master debater, a true rhetorician. Congrats.
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