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Published on April 11, 2008 By erathoniel In Religion

    Welcome to yet another politically charged rant.

    This time, I will be describing my views on cloning.

    I'm not gonna write it in a paragraph, I'm gonna list, to make it easier for all you.

  1. Cloning is best used specifically in God's mandated stewardship (rescuing endangered species).
  2. Cloning is not to be used on sentient life, that gets to the point of playing God.
  3. Cloning is not to be used to cross-breed life. Remember the Minotaur.
  4. Cloning is God-given, through His creation of us with DNA and other methods to clone us.
  5. Cloning should not be used in conjunction with embryonic stem-cell research.
  6. Cloning is a dangerous tool, and should be closely regulated by both a safety and ethics comitee.
  7. Cloning should not be used to create new, artificial, life.
  8. Cloning should not be used to bring back the dead, save endangered species/animals.
  9. Cloning should not be used to grow replacement bodies for man.
  10. Cloning should always be done with a mind towards God and how he would wish for us to work.

Comments
on Apr 11, 2008

I've never been a big fan of cloning although I think that's exactly how God made Eve.  I believe she was a product of cloning.

It seems as tho something seems to happen when they try to clone humans.  From what little I understand of the procedure they don't get very far in the lab when they try.  Something in the genes make it explode when the cells start dividing. 

I heard recently they are trying to put  human cells in a cow's egg.  I'm just wondering why in the world would they do this?   Pretty bizarre. 

 

on Apr 11, 2008

Yeah, just keep one species. And try not to emulate Jurassic Park too closely.

I knew that they never have managed to clone humans, but I wanted to point out that I think the entire attempts are immoral.

on Apr 11, 2008
Remember the Minotaur.


Actually, that was made when a lady got busy with a bull...not cloning.


Cloning actually has a high failure rate...it's tricky to get everything just right. It's similar to artificial insemination, but a heckuva lot harder.

Cloning isn't really playing God...it's just reworking things that already exist(ed). You can't create life from nonlife and so can't create anything "new." Hybrids, maybe...but that's it. The notion of making a functioning chimera is very low...I mean, the genetic code can be spliced making it a technical chimera...but making a "half man/half other animal" kind of thing is completely impossible.


For now...bwahahahahaha!

~Zoo
on Apr 11, 2008

What I meant was about the mix of human-animal, not the creation thereof.

I never said cloning was playing God, only cloning of sentient life falls into the intended category.

 

 

on Apr 11, 2008
What I meant was about the mix of human-animal, not the creation thereof.


There's already been a sheep spliced with human genes.

~Zoo
on Apr 11, 2008

Which could be bad. What I meant is that any creation of these cross-species is bad. At least human-animal.

on Apr 11, 2008
I never said cloning was playing God, only cloning of sentient life falls into the intended category.


I guess you need to define what playing God means. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the idea of cloning. I DO think that one day we will have the means to make a copy of the mind and download it to a machine body or virtual world (or keep it as a backup copy in case the real you dies) While being able to accomplish this is beyond the scope of our present technology I think within the next century it could indeed be possible. All you're really doing is taking a complete snapshot of the brain- although in extreme detail and it would really be several snapshots, physical mapping, electrical, chemical, probably have to zoom down to the molecular level, quantum level, I dunno. We'll invent some cool sounding sci-fi gadget that will do it all, and you can then store yourself on the 22nd century version of your i-pod! The question is, if we could one day do this would that mean that we were playing God, or merely succeeding in transferring ourselves to another medium?

If you have a heart condition and you get a replacement artificial heart, is that playing God? Because technically that means you just unnaturally extended your lifespan. I am a big fan of being able to grow replacement organs and tissues. And no, that doesn't involve killing a million fetuses to harvest them for their stem cells- we'll be able to create stem cells artificially soon enough.

I'm also all for genetic experimentation and manipulation- just so long as the parties involved fully understand what they're getting into and sign a consent form stating that they assume the risks and responsibilities if they suddenly turn into a human fly after the operation!
on Apr 11, 2008

Playing God means doing something the way it's not supposed to be done without thinking through all the crises you could be causing.

on Apr 11, 2008
Playing God means doing something the way it's not supposed to be done without thinking through all the crises you could be causing.


Yeah, God didn't think us through at all. We should learn from that.

Seriously, He didn't...He killed us all off because we suck so bad. Humans-even God can't figure'em out.

~Zoo
on Apr 11, 2008

He probably wanted to kill us all at multiple times.

God definitely thought us through. Think of all we have and take for granted. Now start with a blob and build a human.