KFC:

 

Oh my science...the irony is palpable.  If he has to use scripture as a guide, then they aren't his thoughts.  To have a foundation of "his own" it needs to be...of "his own," no?

 

Maybe I'm amiss here, but it seems like you're suggesting he think for himself by using the thoughts of others you approve of.

Yes. I agree. You are amiss.

We are to have the mind of Christ. We are also always to be ready to give an answer for why we believe using and knowing the scriptures (which have stood the test of time) to do so. That's all I was saying to Erathoniel.

Wow...I just read all four pages.  With the exception of Zoo and Stubby (edit: and Texas who I love dearly but forgot she left comments on page 1)...you guys are totally gay.

 

Why do you care, Christians?  Is it because you're concerned for the welfare of others that might get some horrible disease due to the irreverant gay folk?  Well can't you see that the only people that are going to get diseases from the irreverant gay folk are other irreverant gay folk?  So why do you care?

 

Does it offend your oh so noble sensibilities?  Is it the image of a woman with arms and legs entangled with another woman or a man inserting his penis into the out door of another man that makes your sensibility gag with disgust?

 

These are people, damn you all.  Whether or not they were born that way or chose it is completely irrelevant.  It isn't your place to judge (or did that line of your sacred book get suddenly erased?)

 

And for a Christian to feign concern about the health of others is the greatest hypocrisy possible.  Let's have another witch burning, shall we, Christian?  Millions of innocent women burned at the stake because some half cracked nutjob, much like your self righteous selves, thought that humans were performing magic of some sort.  How is this different?

 

You scripturalists are fascists.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Leave people alone.  If they go to hell, then they go to hell.  You aren't God, and we don't want or need you to BE God, so knock it the heck off.  Look at that...I had to use "heck" instead of what I really thought because some brainless religion infected zombie might be offended by a different configuration of glyphs that aligned themselves into a four lettered pronouncement. 

 

How sad that you're so weak minded.  How sad for decent gay people, how sad for humanity.  You'd sacrifice decent human beings on a cross built on a principle....you oughta be familiar with that scenario...maybe not repeating it would be wise.  But wisdom is the last thing I expect from you.

I never prosecute anyone for their beliefs. Basically you're taking my statement of why something is wrong, from a non-judgemental standing, and using it to judge me. You do realize that you are being a hypocrit, right?

If "guys" includes me (as lula's a gal), thank you, OCK, for noticing. I certainly am happy and merry most of the time.  Hope you are too  

I missed that. HA! I get called that a lot. I find it wierd that people, knowing what I believe can use that as an insult while not finding anything wrong with the discrimination. I at least say homosexuality, as I find it to be less offensive to some parties.

Perhaps you missed what I said in reply #25 that addresses your question.

The dieseases and misery from having those isn't confined to those practicing homosexuality.




Besides these, is the fact that homosexuals who knowing they are infected with disease even HIV/AIDS, donate to blood and sperm banks.

Would you like to personally receive such blood or have your family members receive it?

Don't they screen that stuff? I'm never getting a transfusion again. Unless I'm dying. (Irony being that you only get one if you're dying, figures nicely.)

Well, some are already saying homosexuality isn't wrong just not in those exact words. that...and by bringing in moral element, then comes moral relativism.

Today's values are filled with moral relativism.

What used to be called moral irresponsibility is now called being freed up.

Being celibate or practicing chastity is now called having neurotic inhibitions or an unhealthy repression!

What used to be called a living in sin is now called an alternative lifestyle.

The practice of Sodomy used to be against all federal and state law; now it is taught in schools, grades K through 12th as equal to sexual practice within traditional marriage. schools prostelyising homosexuality: Hey, school kids don't knock it till you've tried it....don't forget your condom! See ya! (psst, psst..here they put Planned Parenthood's interest first and our children's last or not considered at all.)

Then, sex was a personal word and homosexual was an unheard of word

What used to be called depravity is now called creative self-expression.

What used to be called ethical anarchy is now called the theology of liberation.

Yes, they absolutely do their best screening, but the problem is that the person who is donating must be truthful in the questionairre. I understand the question is: have you engaged in same-sex sex since 1977?

Also, if someone is going to have surgery and there is enough time, then provisions can be made for your family members or you yourself to give the blood ahead of time...this is the best of scenarios.

Wow Ock, your bias against Christians is palpable.

I can see you just don't get it. We're not out to get anybody. We are tired of being forced to accept what has been wrong and considered until 1973 a phychiatric disorder. We don't care who does what with whom. I don't have a problem with the person....I have a problem with the program.

When they teach our children in the school system that this is perfectly ok and force us to tolerate sinful behavior we have EVERY right to say it's wrong and and against nature. Twenty years ago we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Everyone was in pretty much TOTAL agreement.

What has changed?

Where is your tolerance for the Christians?

OCk,

We are judging and measuring homosexuality, not the individual.

I oppose homosexuality for a variety of solid reasons, my faith being one, common sense, logic and basic understanding of the human anatomy the others.

I agree with what Lula says. We aren't judging individuals, we're condemning the sin. Also, some of the comments are so vulgar they are seriously risking deletion. I keep these articles free of adult content for a reason. I do not want to have to flag them as adult, and will delete comments to prevent this from happening.

Voice your opinion, but do not be obscene.

 

I find your entire thought process to be obscene, and you don't.  Know what that proves?  Obscenity is subjective.

So.  Feel free to excise me.  I looked up the definitions of some of the stronger words that I used and found the definitions to be true and fitting.  I wanted to make absolutely sure I was using the right words.  The "totally gay" thing was a play on the vernacular of modern day language and was/will be humorous to some - as it was meant to be.  That it was lost on some others was not only not surprising, it was infinitely predictable. 

 

And after all,  it's not that truth would concern you any...if it doesn't go with your belief system, it matters not a whit if it's true or not. 

 

So cut me brother.  Just another excision in a very long line of them.  You're in good company!  So you subjectively think...