...or make chocolate soldiers out of our weinies.  


(sorry, the devil made me post that.  )

My eyes. They burn.

What he meant is we have free will, which is why we can even have this discussion. Don't ask how pre-destined fate meets free will. He knows what will happen, and it hurts Him when he knows that we will, no matter what, sin. See "Minority Report".

are you still playing with your toy soldiers Roy?

I think it's time to grow up!    

That hurt me worse. Way worse.

  That's hilarious.

 

By the way...I've just realized that a "religious opinion" isn't really your opinion.  It's the opinion of whoever wrote that book. (Hint: it was probably some guy)

I find it interesting that people can be so prejudiced towards someone just because they read in a book that it's bad.  Have you guys ever interacted with gay people?  They're really not all that different from us heteros...aside from taking it in the butt.  Ah, but we should never question what's in the Bible...no matter how outdated and idiotic that it seems, that would be a free thinkin' kind of society...can't have that with our closed minded Christianity. 

Love and acceptance of people no matter who they are or persecuting homosexuals because they like the butt sex...which one is more important?

~Zoo

Zoo,

First of all, it's not just any book....that book happens to be God's Word. God tells us the truth becasue He can neither deceive or be deceived. The truth is---there is something very wrong with the practice of homosexuality and all the other forms of promiscuous sex.

In the Scriptural passages I cited above we see that God has, from the very beginning, defined the dimensions of right and wrong in immutable terms. He has always told us to love our neighbor as well as our enemies, but He gives us no authority to sanction or approve a person's actions or behavior that Scripture clearly defines as sinful.

Now just for an exercise...keeping in mind we are talking a person's actions, behavior...we read also in the Good Book that thievery is wrong, sinful and can never be approved of..

Take your sentence and apply that "someone" to a thief instead of the homosexual person.

VERY weak argument, stubbyfinger. People choose outcast lifestyles all the time. Are we going to extend your argument to say that pedophiles are born that way? What about those who practice bestiality? While I am not equating homosexuality with either activity, it does go to show that the argument of "why would someone choose an outcast's lifestyle" is faulty.

Your stereotype of homosexuals as being universally loving, kind, and accepting is equally faulty. I've heard the choice words they have for others who don't choose their lifestyle. I am also aware that they contemptuously refer to heterosexuals as "breeders" as if we should be considered a lesser class of citizen. The myth of the lovable femme is just that, a myth, and you should be ashamed of yourself for perpetuating it.

Now, if you said that the activities are between consenting adults and that the law has no right to go into their bedroom, I would agree with that. But don't try to use myths and unsupported statements to say something that doesn't necessarily follow.

zoologist,

You are the hypocrite of hypocrites!

And I think you KNOW why I said that!

"Closed-minded" religious people are persecuting homosexuals? Really? How?

Lula posts:

leauki posts: #20

We don't have to wait 10 or 20 years....Denmark pioneered same-sex unions in 1989. The stats are there...and we would be wise to take notice.

Thievery hurts other people.  Being gay...not sure how that hurts anyone.

 

Oh?  I don't recall persecuting anyone based on who they are.  Now, based on what they do...well, that's a different story.  I hold people accountable for their own actions, especially when it affects other people.

By protesting their very existence, pretty much.

~Zoo

Right. And every comment here has been about homosexual BEHAVIOR, zoologist.

That, by definition, is "what they do"!



Nope, not protesting their existence, but refusing to sanction their behavior. They can do as they choose. But we're not going to teach it as a virtue.

The fact is, zoologist, it's not about what you or I think, but what God says. He's got the final word on this one.

The title says, "homosexuality." The opposite of heterosexuality, which is more of a state of being, rather than "something someone does." You may say "I am a heterosexual", not "I behave as a heterosexual", right?



No one's teaching it as a virtue. I don't see it that way, but merely the way someone is. You can't change it and there's no point in getting so worked up over who they decide to have sex with.

Viewing someone's very existence as a "problem" when they aren't hurting anyone and saying that somehow just by existing they tear at the fabric of moral righteousness somehow seems a little over the top to me.

~Zoo

Actually, yes, it is being taught as a virtue by many educators and "experts".



Largely because you consider the Bible "just a book". I agree that the OP should read the Bible and research his position, but I also KNOW when you read the Bible that it has quite a bit to say about homosexual behavior.

The argument is in no way faulty your just not getting it. Have you ever seen a grown man naked? If you were sexually aroused, just like a heterosexual is at the sight beautiful naked woman, then your gay. Having been an athlete in school I've seen plenty of naked men in the locker room, never once was I aroused, so for me it's very easy to not choose a lifestyle that made my life much more difficult, and I could never choose not be attracted to women, could you? Homosexuals for whatever reason find other men sexually attractive and are not sexually attracted to women, what is so hard to understand about that?  A pedophile for whatever reason finds kids sexually attractive, it is a behavior that society cannot tolerate for obvious reasons but gays are not hurting anyone.

Point is no one could choose to be gay if they were not attracted to the same sex.

The rest of your comment has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote.