A Pastifarian is one who believes that the universe was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.



It's actually a belief system to explain how exactly Intelligent Design occurred, thanks to the grand Spaghediety. Read more here.



'People' pay to see a lot of things. You must've paid to see Expelled. I wasn't talking about 'people'. I was asking KFC, specifically, knowing her as I do, if she would pay to watch An Inconvenient Truth, or an evolution-heavy documentary.

On another note, That brilliant satire of the Sistine Chapel is now my desktop background, supplanting the difficult-to-overcome hotness that is Alexis Bledel.

I'll probably be back to Alexis tomorrow, though . . .

Guess who's got new wallpaper.

~Zoo

And I mean, there's evidence of the FSM, too! Actual photographic evidence!

Mark Mathis sort of shot the movie in the foot when he refused to let PZ Myers into the film where he (Mathis) would be answering questions later.

 

He pretended that it was because Myers wasn't invited, but the invites were sent out via Internet.  Richard dawkins got in as a "guest" under Myers name.  Guests didn't show on the list.

 

Now why would Mathis not want Myers there when he was thanked at the end of the film?

 

 

I linked this very broadcast on Era's blog about ID.  Don't believe us...listen for yourself.  Mathis is NOT your friend.  He put his foot so far in it he makes all believers look like agenda driven idiots.  There are bad apples in every barrel.  Bad scientists, bad believers.  Mathis is a bad man all around.  Scientists and believers alike should suspend their disagreements long enough to out this guy for what he is.  A spin doctor and a liar.

 

 

It isn't a joke.  I didn't really scroll up to who said it, so I won't discuss it in context, but instead, will make an attempt at educating you.

 

When someone somewhere decided that ID should be taught in the science class, it angered some people.  It angered them because ID is not science as science defines itself.  It's untestable and unproveable.  A lot of science minded folks believed, maybe for right or wrong, that it was just an agenda to get creationism taught in public schools.

 

So these people that were angered started preaching the gospel of the "Flying Spaghetti Monster."  The FSM supposedly created the whole universe with his noodley appendage.  And they said that if you were going to allow ONE unproveable doctrine into science class, then you had to allow them all - including the Flying Spaghetti Monster. 

 

Adherants of the Flying Spaghetti Monster are other known as "Pastafarians."  get it?  *rimshot*

Got it.

I've gotta sign up for this.

All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

~Zoo

I understand what you're saying SC. I actually agree with you but I don't see this movie that way.

The way I see it is the left has no problem repeatedly putting out distorted
"documentaries", but as soon as someone that leans a little more conservatively puts things in perspective, they get all flustered. You really need to see the movie to properly comment on it tho.

I emailed my son to get his review. I told him of our conversation. He said this:

I thought the movie was good. they inverviewed some of the most
prominent evolutionists alive, and i didn't see any distortion of the facts or
anyone taken out of context. Richard dawkins always says that he's
"taken out of context" but at one point in the movie Stein is reading to
Dawkins out of his own book "the god delusion." what the evolutionists
said on camera is no different from what they have previously written or
said in the past. they interviewed a number of scientists (both
christian and not christian) who lost their jobs over this issue. that guy
you're talking to can't cry foul without actually seeing the movie and
listing which historical facts were taken out of context (belief in
evolution doesn't count as a historical fact since its a worldview).
scientific american is a magazine similar to the sports illustrated version of
a science magazine. its hardly an unbiased source. and tell your
friend that the "agenda" of the movie that he talks about isn't to kill
evolution or to push intelligent design on anyone. the agenda of the movie
is make the point that America is a country founded on freedoms,
specifically the freedom of inquiry, and our intellectual freedom is being
taken away in the scientific community.

Zoo, do not embed videos, just link. Please?

If'n I must.


Ben Stein thrills us with his scientific prowess regarding evolution: WWW Link

~Zoo

Second off, you do realize that you are proving Expelled's point with every comment you make. Now while that gets sunk in, you have to go see it.

The movie is a joke, plain and simple. This is not a documentary, not even close, it's propaganda all the way. Now, if they actually did the following things, then maybe, just maybe they deserve respect as filmmakers:

1) Don't plagiarize.

2) Get the facts straight.

3) Don't misinterpret or change interviews with people you've included in the film.

4) Don't take out footage that you don't agree with.

 

It's not a film, it's junk. It doesn't even have enough use to be a coffee cup

 

~~Ock~~

That was hilarious! I remember reading about it and I couldn't stop laughing, I mean seriously, they were oblivious to Richard Dawkins? Oh dear me...

 

 

What point? How can you make a point when everything, or near everything presented in the film is a mis-truth, "misspoke," misrepresentation, misinterpretation, lie, etc...? They misquote Darwin, amont other things.

 

Oh and correct me if I'm wrong, but people (namely creationists/ID'ers) put so much focus on Darwin, but he isn't the one that came up with Evolution, right? Wasn't there a guy before him, by like a decade or two. The name Engles comes to mind, but I think that's the wrong name

 

~Luca

Did you actually see the movie? I'm guessing not. Did you read my comment #23 from someone who did see the movie and said there were NO distortions or lies?

One thing you're all not paying attention to...maybe because it's the left's propaganda you're buying into hook, line and sinker....but this is not about teaching the ID theory. This is not an anti-evolution movie.

The whole movie has to do with losing our freedoms of inquiry.

I'm telling ya...you should all watch this movie regardless if you're pro-evolution or not. Because that is not the point of the movie.

Watch it like an open mind like I watched An Inconvenient Truth. Heck, I was biased towards An Inconvenient Truth, but I found Global Warming just far too... trippy...

The aliens did it, man...

It's about nothing, nothing at all. You talk about propaganda, but you fail to see you fall for propaganda as well. You've got a brain, your god gave it to you, then use it for gosh sake. This movie isn't...anything. Not just tht, but you're putting up a straw man. I never said it was anti evolution.

Besides that, what I've got against is exactly what it has done: stolen, lied, misrepresented, etc...

Tell me, as a moral Christian, do you agree that those things are wrong? And yes, I can provide the links if you so need them.





Were they subjective? I'm sorry KFC, but I don't know your son (correct?), I don't know anyone here. How can you say, that one person...one, is true, when many others have claimed that the movie has done that? Hmmm, one...versus hundreds if not thousands. Me thinks the latter are more likely to be right. I mean come on, either people are starting to think illogically (ironically, namely those "darwinists"), or your son just saw it through his bias.

And no I didnt get to see it, but I've talked with people I do know, who have seen it, and I have been able to get my hands on an outline of the movie.