On Evil

Wonder what evil is?

Published on April 24, 2008 By erathoniel In Religion

Evil is any time man walks away from God, the Creator. This is anything from murder to "trivial" sins, such as gossip, or breaking the sabbath.

Man is born evil, and has no hope of salvation without Jesus Christ. The payment for accepting Christ is that we are allowed into heaven with God, and the evil in us is taken away by judgement. Then those who follow Jesus are allowed into Heaven, and given wonderful perfect life in a wonderful perfect world as the Earth was originally intended to be.

Evil is inherent in everything.

Comments (Page 6)

SplitPeaSoup

on Apr 27, 2008

where things are true for one person and not for another.

hold the phone!

if its hurtful to the world and our human community, its true for everyone that it is wrong.

the absence of family planning is one such wrong-doing. use condoms people

Gideon MacLeish

on Apr 27, 2008

the absence of family planning is one such wrong-doing.

Actually, bringing children into the world doesn't hurt the world OR our human community. Sorry, you lose.

One might argue that extending the life of the elderly causes greater harm. They are beyond childbearing years, and thus, cannot propagate the race; and the medical expense of keeping them alive is not justified by their output.

Zoologist03

on Apr 27, 2008

So true, seeing the world only through secular and atheistic humanism is very one dimensional too, Zoo!

I don't. I can see the world from your point of view...but I prefer mine to that one.

At least I'm willing to try out new world views. You have become so entwined as to outright refuse anything that doesn't mesh precisely with your belief system- no matter the evidence or logic behind it.

~Zoo

SplitPeaSoup

on Apr 27, 2008

One might argue that extending the life of the elderly causes greater harm

Good point. I think we should start by taking you out.
I should have suspected this from the mormon.

Zoologist03

on Apr 27, 2008

^^^^

Actually he's not. I don't think so anyway.

Mormons are great.

The ones on this site do a nice representation of the group.

~Zoo

SplitPeaSoup

on Apr 27, 2008

Mormons are great.

I happen to like Mormans, too. They gave me a great turkey dinner for free. The only issue I had was that one time during the meal when 10 guys in suits jumped me and told me I could have my own planet or some bullshit like that.

Zoologist03

on Apr 27, 2008

The only issue I had was that one time during the meal when 10 guys in suits jumped me and told me I could have my own planet

They like to recruit.

~Zoo

KFC Kickin For Christ

on Apr 27, 2008

I should have suspected this from the mormon.

ha! He's not. So where does that leave you now?

lulapilgrim

on Apr 27, 2008

So true, seeing the world only through secular and atheistic humanism is very one dimensional too, Zoo!

I don't. I can see the world from your point of view...but I prefer mine to that one.

I don't either, Zoo. For I can see things through the secular/atheistic humanist pov but I prefer mine to that one.

SplitPeaSoup

on Apr 27, 2008

ha! He's not. So where does that leave you now?

He used to be a member of LDS, and he admits to continuing influence.

lulapilgrim

on Apr 27, 2008

One might argue that extending the life of the elderly causes greater harm. They are beyond childbearing years, and thus, cannot propagate the race; and the medical expense of keeping them alive is not justified by their output.

We can see how euthanasia (killing the aged and disabled) flows from abortion (killing the unborn). So yes, this is the argument that comes from those who think euthanasia is the way to go. With both the evil of abortion and euthanasia, society rids itself of those it decides is unwanted.

SplitPeaSoup

on Apr 27, 2008

Objection! Fallacy of non causa pro causa (slippery slope). Abortion does not lead to euthanasia.

Abortion should only be legal if the individual is terminated before it knew it existed.

Morning after pills. Use them.

erathoniel

on Apr 28, 2008

Personally, I do not believe abortion is ever acceptable. Maybe if verifiable rape, a tad of a loop hole can be provided, at great expense to an individual. The moral costs are too great.

Honestly, I don't wanna live forever, but I do believe that an individual's continuation of life is up to them if they are viewed to be sane. Basically, I wouldn't wanna go on life support simply 'cause I'm old.

SplitPeaSoup

on Apr 28, 2008

if they are viewed to be sane

KILL THE CRAZIES. Ha ha. Just kidding. Bad choice of words.

OckhamsRazor

on Apr 28, 2008

Don't stop discussing now folks. You're all doing great. Despite Lulas attempt to hyperfocus on abortion in order to discredit a general point (which is much like proving that years do NOT have 365 days in them by proving that sometimes they have 366), the continued arguing about what IS right and what IS wrong (absolutism based on unproveable premises) is painting in living color the proof of my hypothesis.

Lula, if you're at all interested in discussing the point that I WAS making, then take a subject that's a little broader - like "Jesus is the Son of One God that created everything." There are lots of groups that disagree. These are the groups that all need to work together, along with those that hold that belief, before we blow up this wonderful place over the fact.

I have yet to see a retraction of the statement that "Evil is not working together to make the world a better place." And since that was what my comments were directed to, maybe some honest fundamentalist (Christian or otherwise) will discuss my point in those terms instead of trying to prove a general point with one specific issue that doesn't cover the entirety of that point. Until then, Lula and others, please continue to prove me right. I knew you wouldn't let me down.

On a side note, I must wonder. Is it a spear in the side of an American fundamentalist Christian that the USA holds dear that freedom of religion is an important value, or do they rather think that such a freedom is the will of Satan?

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