Stupid double post.

I only know this because I spend way too much damn time here.

hehe. (If I sound like Michael Jackson, it's only because I am)

Protocept:  I'll let you know when I stop vomitting.

back in the good ol days i amused myself by starting a newsgroup entitled "alt-sex-animals-lamprey eels"  to put that in perspective, here's an image of a lamprey eel at work literally drilling it's way into a salmon in order to literally suck it dry (and dead)

and here's a pic of a lamprey eel's mouth (and to think they kiss their mothers with it).

anyway some enterprising sucker (sorry i couldn't resist) took it seriously enough to post a short vid of  woman having sex with an eel.  i can't recall where i stored it but it wasn't the kind of thing one would discard accidentally.   if your innarested lemme know and i'll try to fish it out. 

i've never been able to decide which of the two enjoyed it least.

not enuff.  i'm barely around myself anymore and was really wondering where you'd wandered off to because i hadn't seen anything from you for months until maybe yesterday?

Can't tell you just how WRONG that is, LOL.  Although, how much does it pay to have sex with a lamprey eel?  Just asking.

I was gone for awhile but I pop on now and again.  Do you still have my email?  I haven't seen you on here for forever...

Geez....think about it...if it weren't for porn some of you might not even be here right now. Funny thing is...this country was based on puritan values yet the porn industry brings in about 40 million or more a year...yet few people fess up to looking at porn. Ok....who's buying all the sex toys!? And I don't think it's the porn thats the problem...it's the people that view it and can't tell fantasy from reality and sometimes involve inoccent people in their little perversions. It's just nekid people...and honestly...who here hasn't seen someone nekid?

The fact that exploitation of sex exists is not under discussion. Exploitation of everything exists.

Addiction/preoccupation is, and the desire of the OP'er to keep a tight control of it is.

Like anything else, if you find you're doing something to the exclusion of other things which require your attention, there's a problem. The problem is that YOU (and others, but we're not discussing them) cannot do what you're supposed to be doing. If it weren't porn, it'd be something else. YOU need to examine the problem which is not doing what you should be doing.

That will involve a therapist since it involves stuff you can't get to by yourself.

As for porn...well, I'd go with what's already been said by starkers, WG, Shelby, v, fuzzy, Karen and others. That's me. You'll develop your own ideas about it. NightTrain said some very insightful things in this thread. I encourage you to find them and to save and think about them. One of them is that you can't bubble wrap the world. You have to develop mechanisms to cope successfully with things and to render them nontoxic to you by understanding them and yourself. Try to remember what one of the most insightful people in (recorded) history wrote: "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in the stars but in ourselves."

In your case you found sex to be a powerful stimulant. Congrats...join the human race. Should we limit what minors see? Yes. A better method is to have them observe normal relationships and teach through example. And do it gently, with loving kindness. Without guilt and shame.

The human race has had enough of that crap. Time to evolve and move on.

I have always fealt that we are cheating our children by not teaching them about emotions at an early age. They don't need sex education. It clearly doesn't do any good considering teen pregnancy rates.  They need emotional education and flat out honest information to prevent them from doing stupid things. Installing fear in them only harms them in the end. If young girls understood that putting out to gain Man's attention only creates a bad negative in the long run. Why are we so damn afraid to talk to children? Lack of proper education about themselves adds to the suicide rate. Too many confusedkids becuase that's what marketing does.

So well said. These are the words representing the best: The absolute best of feelings a parent has for his/her children.

My answer is that we should not 'act' or 'not act' out of fear. We should act by doing and saying what we know/feel is right for ourselves and others, children or adult. We should act out of love and loving kindness.

Anything else is a lie and hypocrisy.

This thread should die now. I have been reading this for 2 days now. A topic like this is nothing more than an opinion and one that is not in the interest of this community. Porn started 50 + years ago with pictures. If you don't want it than don't look at it, don't tell me it just pops on your computer. It doesn't do that unless you invited it and you only have to invite it once. Reformat with a totally clean install and don't visit any sites and it won't just pop up on your computer. I have 7 grandchildren ages from 6 to 14. They are all on the computer and have been advised and talked to about these types of subjects. When they have a question they ask as they were also advised to do so and wouldn't be in any trouble for doing so. Children can learn they just need to be put in the correct direction. Porn is part of life, time to get use to it. I respect anyone believes but this is like preaching God to someone that doesn't believe. It's not necessary!

DaveBax, respectfully, I couldn't disagree more. The 'life' of a thread shouldn't be determined...it is what it is. People have thoughts which I, for one, would really like to learn from. I'm only sorry I'm not learning more from more of the Community.

I am glad you've had an open discussion with your children and grandchildren. That's a courageous thing to do as so many of us have been raised with active/passive guilt, ignorance and shame around this topic and sex in general.

As for whether it 'just pops up' on the computer, in truth I've gotten spam emails about 'enhancements' both chemical and (for want of a better word) 'mechanical'.  So, they can come without any 'visits', and children should learn how to deal with that, and their natural desires as well.

I certainly hope I wasn't perceived to be preaching...because what I wrote was about my feelings, beliefs and values along with a smattering of knowledge....with the hope they would help/add and stimulate some thought.

A community member is in trouble. Do you mkind if we try to help him get through it?

No, they are nothing alike.

Heed your own advice...

Not trying to make an enemiy here, I just thought your tone was not necessary and way too absolute for my taste.

Not trying to make an enemiy here

I don't get offended that easy. No enemy here. Just had something to say after reading all this and said it. No one has to agree with it. I read what you all said and I respect your comments. Was just trying to say from all the comments I read was that it can't be stopped but it can be controlled to a degree with some teaching.  

If you don't want it than don't look at it 

I agree so I'm done here. You would think one would learn but I can't seem to do that here. I made a post a while back that IE8 Rc was released if anyone was interested. I about got chopped up and spit out over that post. At least it made me feel that way. Because of my wife’s illness I don’t' get a lot of time on here to see exactly what takes place. I will learn over time it's just taking more computer time than i have, but will learn. I think the help you all give is great. I just have to stay on those subjects. Sorry if I offended you all and will just sit back on the side till I learn how to inject the correct comments.

No worries mate. I just don't want to read tomoorrow that some kid offed himself because he didn't know what his penis was for.